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    Re: Pigeon Analysis - New Insights about this Crazy Google Local Algo & the Constant

    Bumpity bump.

    Since I did the post above at dinner time last night, some may have missed it.
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    Re: Pigeon Analysis - New Insights about this Crazy Google Local Algo & the Constant

    Thanks for the update Linda, this is pretty interesting.

    I saw your post last night, went to check on listings then so wrapped up in it I forgot to come back and comment. The joys of internet distractions. LOL

    I haven't seen much non-favorable activity. Most of the listings I am responsible for are pretty stable. One client in particular stays at #1 while the rest shuffle around.

    All this data is great and it gives some food for thought. But I think for many it's all about "what are the action steps?", or "what do we do now?" , "Do we do something about it or do we wait?"

    You can't go wrong with those best practices you teach. It's what has saved me from not having to worry too much about the craziness of the flux. Much Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Nava View Post
    All this data is great and it gives some food for thought. But I think for many it's all about "what are the action steps?", or "what do we do now?" , "Do we do something about it or do we wait?"

    You can't go wrong with those best practices you teach. It's what has saved me from not having to worry too much about the craziness of the flux. Much Thanks.
    You are very welcome Louis and yes that's exactly right! Just keep working on those best practices. Many of my clients are holding steady in the A spot too.

    It's just when Pigeon lays a big turd like it did on Los Angeles Personal Injury Attorney, putting 2 fake KW stuffed names listings for the same attorney at the top of the pack. That knocked out 2 attorneys that ARE playing by the rules. So when that happens, you are just at the mercy of the Pigeon.

    But the good news is this algo won't last forever, so in the meantime work on the things you CAN control because you can't control the Pigeon. Having said that, maybe it's time to say the "Serenity Prayer"!

    God grant me the serenity
    to accept the things I cannot change,
    the courage to change the things I can,
    and the wisdom to know the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Buquet View Post
    Joshua, meant to say too...

    Good to know others are following Seattle Chiro like I do. And I do it specifically because I know there are some aggressive spammy marketers there.

    Thanks for investigating Freemont. I thought it must be some kind of penalty but assumed if they were penalized on the organic side they would not rank in blended either. That's the way it worked pre-Pigeon, but Pigeon let's a lot of listings rank that would not have before.
    I only follow it because you do

    Pre-Pigeon I still saw Penguin penalized sites ranking in the local results. Whether they were blended or not, I have no idea. I quit trying to figure out blended vs pack when blended and pack results because visually identical (that happened, right?). It was too cumbersome for my brain at the time haha.

    So, I can't vouch for whether they showed in blended or in pack, I just know that they still showed in local results, whichever they were.

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    So, I can't vouch for whether they showed in blended or in pack, I just know that they still showed in local results, whichever they were.
    To me blended and the pack are the same thing. The pinned pack results are blended results. But I use the terms interchangeably sometimes, so maybe it's confusing.
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    To me blended and the pack are the same thing. The pinned pack results are blended results. But I use the terms interchangeably sometimes, so maybe it's confusing.
    I don't think it is confusing. I just remember when "blended" and "pure" were different. Are there any "pure" left anymore? Are they all "blended" now?
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    Re: Pigeon Analysis - New Insights about this Crazy Google Local Algo & the Constant

    Opinions were still differing on that pre-Pigeon. Post-Pigeon who knows.

    I was just meaning that the way I talk about it, I don't make the distinction.

    To me there is just pure organic or pack results, which I also refer to as blended sometimes.
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    Re: Pigeon Analysis - New Insights about this Crazy Google Local Algo & the Constant

    Heads up for those who use the AdPreview tool, it is producing pre-pigeon Google+ Local results. HT to Nikki for pointing this out to me https://plus.google.com/105756066114957454721
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    Re: Pigeon Analysis - New Insights about this Crazy Google Local Algo & the Constant

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Buquet View Post
    Opinions were still differing on that pre-Pigeon. Post-Pigeon who knows.

    I was just meaning that the way I talk about it, I don't make the distinction.

    To me there is just pure organic or pack results, which I also refer to as blended sometimes.
    Ahh, good to know. Makes sense to me.
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    Re: Pigeon Analysis - New Insights about this Crazy Google Local Algo & the Constant

    See this new post for actionable advice.

    Pigeon Algo: Advice from Top Experts and a Checklist
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