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    There have been 2 big changes in Google Local the past few days.

    1) There was a big algo change I started noticing on Friday. Lots of folks are now talking about it and several of us are trying to figure it out.

    2) Places search is gone. I'll try to do a separate post about that because it's causing lots of issues and I'm talking to developers that do local rank tracking, that are having to reprogram because this update broke their tools. (MORE SOON!)

    This post is about the algo update. ARE YOU SEEING RANKING CHANGES?

    Here is Michael Borgelt's Local Weather Report which confirms a big shift in rankings.

    Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?-weatherreport.jpg


    I'm totally swamped today and right now am trying to watch Google I/O live streaming, so will just give you my brief thoughts then share other posts where this is being discussed. Then below let's put our head's together to try to figure it out.

    The local algo shakeup I'm seeing has what I would call some bad blends. Where crap is getting into the pack that never ranked in the pack before. So it's knocking good listings and the regulars in the pack down and sometimes out...

    One thing I'm seeing a lot with Dentist and Chiropractor listings, is a Dr listing taking over the pack even though the practice has a ton more citations, reviews and everything going for it. Sure that happens sometimes for various reasons I can usually pinpoint. But in these cases I'm not seeing a rhyme or reason.


    Here is one G+ post I was involved in where we have been discussing.


    Initially Gene talks about 800# but click comments to expand and you'll see Joy and I talking about the other algo changes we've been seeing.

    So far most of the chatter I'm hearing is negative, with lots of bad results getting in the pack.

    If I have time later I'll share some screen shots and more commentary so stay tuned for more.

    What are you seeing?
    Any big ranking shifts?



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    Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    Yep, we're scrambling with our local rank tracker. Ugh.

    Traveling today, so can't look into the algo update. Will have to catch up next week.


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    Re: Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    We're so busy with the rank tracking that we haven't even checked to see how many clients were affected by the algo change yet. So far 1 with super positive movement (page 10 to page 1 and F in the maps). We had removed spammy categories 3 weeks ago though, so I doubt it's algo-change related and more update related

    One thing I did notice though, that may be relevent is that a bunch of the pending edits I had in MapMaker came back with the generic msg:
    Thank you for your suggestion. Upon reviewing your suggested change, we have decided not to apply your suggested change to Property Guide Toronto Condos for Sale Rent at this time, as we found the existing details to be more appropriate.

    Thanks for your help,
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    I'm wondering if crap is getting into the 7 pack because they re-set maps edits again? Just a WAG-- but if you were following my Toronto Condo spam thread, you know this one had CLEAR violations.
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    Re: Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneK8 View Post
    We're so busy with the rank tracking that we haven't even checked to see how many clients were affected by the algo change yet. So far 1 with super positive movement (page 10 to page 1 and F in the maps). We had removed spammy categories 3 weeks ago though, so I doubt it's algo-change related and more update related

    One thing I did notice though, that may be relevent is that a bunch of the pending edits I had in MapMaker came back with the generic msg:

    "Thank you for your suggestion. Upon reviewing your suggested change, we have decided not to apply your suggested change to Property Guide Toronto Condos for Sale Rent at this time, as we found the existing details to be more appropriate."

    I'm wondering if crap is getting into the 7 pack because they re-set maps edits again? Just a WAG-- but if you were following my Toronto Condo spam thread, you know this one had CLEAR violations.
    Kate I got that exact same message! I could not remember why I even reported that one, I've been flying around so many places. Thought it was a post at the G forum. :-(

    But ya, right, that name is not spammy? "Property Guide Toronto Condos for Sale Rent".
    That's not their name at all!
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    Re: Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    I don't want to get off topic but here is the original post http://localsearchforum.catalystemar...html#post41285 where we tag-team reported the millions of listings they had! (Ok, there was maybe 4 or 5....).

    Now, back to flying around and stuff
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    OK here is the other post about the rank tracking problems and the
    death of our little local penalty hack!

    RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Update
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    Re: Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    Didn't realize there was a thread on this already but I've noticed a big change too. I did notice that organic factors seem to have more of an influence on the top 3 listings from what I can see (top 3 have strong organic ranking). I have a really detailed example in this thread if anyone wants to weigh in:

    http://localsearchforum.catalystemar...th-weekend.htm
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    I have a sneaking suspicion that maps reset and negatively affected some of the better optimized places.

    A couple of attorney listings that I remember ranking well had their suite # / floor #'s removed from Map Maker and Places listing. Is anyone seeing a similar trend here?

    Joy did bring up the fact that it looks like strong organic results are doing better in local now, but I'm just not seeing that. (at least for attorneys)
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    Gene,

    Do you have a query that I can look at and any insight as to which listings popped in or out of the pack?
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    Re: Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    If you are looking for an example I have one.

    Chiropractor Littleton

    Our guy ranks #1 organic and was A in the pack for the longest time. We have changed nothing and 3 weeks ago he vanished from the pack, not dropped but vanished.

    After calling Google to see if I could get anything out of them, they came back with everything looks clean it must be a glitch.
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