Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11
Like Tree4Likes

Thread: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Update

  1. #1
    Linda Buquet's Avatar
    Linda Buquet is offline Community Leader - Google Local Specialist
    Member Since
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    16,457
    Thanks
    2,704
    Thanked 4,943 Times

    Exclamation RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Update

    OK so this has been brewing and I've been in discussions for a couple days, just have not had time to post. And don't really have time to summarize a whole lot but...

    Many (all?) of the local search rank tracking solutions were using the old "Places Search" results to gather local rankings beyond the 7 pack. Places Search was baked into their core tracking code, so many (all?) of the local tracking solutions are borked right now.

    frustrated

    I know for sure it's affected BrightLocal, Places Scout and Whitespark's tracking because I'd heard from all of them about it and will link to some posts and share more info below.

    1st here is another thing that's impacting Local search consultants now that Places search is dead and gone.

    Remember that hack to check for Google Local penalties? (Big kudos to Broland in the thread below for discovering!) It was based off of using Places search, so no longer works. Hack to Check for Google Local Penalties - Dino brought up the fact that it's borked in post #33 and talks about the impact it has had on BrightLocal's tracking.

    BACK TO RANK TRACKING...

    Here's a post from Kathy with a confusing message she found at Bright Local and Myles and Ross weighed in: Google removes maps pages

    Here is the main G+ stream where the pros have been discussing the issue:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SteveMo...ts/HQKEHhTaFNv
    In that post Myles talks about the issues with BrightLocal tracking.

    And in my post today about another hot topic, the ranking algo changes - Darren from Whitespark said: "Yep, we're scrambling with our local rank tracker. Ugh"

    Google Local Algo Shake Up - Are You Seeing Changes in the 7 Pack?

    As most of you know I've been working with Mark Kabana from Places Scout for a few years.

    We started discussing the this change the second it happened and brainstormed some options. He already did an update, so I think Places Scout is the only local rank tracking that's working right, right now.

    He sent me screen shots and explained what he did to work around the demise of Places Search, but we decided not to publicly share the solution, in case it gives Google ideas about what else than can take away that would thwart our efforts to track rankings.

    Have you run into rank tracking problems the past couple days?

    Do you miss the local penalty hack as much as I do???


    I and others I've told about it were using that thing multiple times per day!


    rossicone and jvaquino like this.
    Is Our Content HELPFUL? Please pay the community back by sharing!

    LocalSearchForumLinda Buquet .:. Google Local Specialist

    Consulting, Troubleshooting & White Label Services for SEOs & Agencies

    Don't Miss Important News & Tips! SUBSCRIBE to Daily Email Digest Here

    Are you a PRO? Join the "Local Search Pros" G+ Community!

    Note: Due to mulitple RSI injuries, pardon short replies. Typos? Blame it on "Dragon". ;-)

  2. Members who thanked Linda Buquet for this post:

    seoWest (06-25-2014)

  3. #2
    Broland's Avatar
    Broland is offline Member
    Member Since
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    140
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked 81 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Yea this is quite sad news. There were actually a few good tricks and uses with the &tbm=plcs, what a shame. I checked all other known tricks, commands and search string modifiers and this seems to be the only one that changed. Hopefully there is a workaround.

  4. Members who thanked Broland for this post:

    Linda Buquet (06-25-2014)

  5. #3
    Dustybones's Avatar
    Dustybones is offline Local News Curator & Local Search Pro
    Member Since
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Rochester NY
    Posts
    951
    Thanks
    379
    Thanked 513 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Thanks for that tip Broland. It was handy while it lasted.
    Broland likes this.

  6. #4
    Linda Buquet's Avatar
    Linda Buquet is offline Community Leader - Google Local Specialist
    Member Since
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    16,457
    Thanks
    2,704
    Thanked 4,943 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Yes thanks Broland. Find us another hack and we will be forever grateful!
    Broland likes this.
    Is Our Content HELPFUL? Please pay the community back by sharing!

    LocalSearchForumLinda Buquet .:. Google Local Specialist

    Consulting, Troubleshooting & White Label Services for SEOs & Agencies

    Don't Miss Important News & Tips! SUBSCRIBE to Daily Email Digest Here

    Are you a PRO? Join the "Local Search Pros" G+ Community!

    Note: Due to mulitple RSI injuries, pardon short replies. Typos? Blame it on "Dragon". ;-)

  7. #5
    Blake Denman's Avatar
    Blake Denman is offline Local Search Pro++
    Member Since
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Bend Oregon
    Posts
    174
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 71 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    And goodbye to our top search queries in GMB

    Google My Business Drops Top Search Queries Over Privacy Concerns
    Lets Connect: Google+ | Twitter
    My Company: RicketyRoo Inc

  8. #6
    Linda Buquet's Avatar
    Linda Buquet is offline Community Leader - Google Local Specialist
    Member Since
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    16,457
    Thanks
    2,704
    Thanked 4,943 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Thanks Blake!

    We've been covering that here too. Justin scooped that story yesterday.
    I was the one that escalated to Google.

    Missing Keyword Data and the Top Search Queries in Google My Business Insights?
    Is Our Content HELPFUL? Please pay the community back by sharing!

    LocalSearchForumLinda Buquet .:. Google Local Specialist

    Consulting, Troubleshooting & White Label Services for SEOs & Agencies

    Don't Miss Important News & Tips! SUBSCRIBE to Daily Email Digest Here

    Are you a PRO? Join the "Local Search Pros" G+ Community!

    Note: Due to mulitple RSI injuries, pardon short replies. Typos? Blame it on "Dragon". ;-)

  9. #7
    Myles Anderson's Avatar
    Myles Anderson is offline Noted Expert
    Member Since
    Sep 2012
    Location
    London, UK
    Posts
    62
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 43 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    A quick note for all BrightLocal customers. Our rank checker and other tools are all working again - rank checker fixed on Wednesday PM.

    We've updated the rank tracker and switched to tracking Google Maps results. Comparing top 7 results in maps vs. pack results is can see almost 100% correlation so the algo driving maps is very similar/identical to that driving pack results.

    Others may know different so please pitch in & enlighten me

  10. Members who thanked Myles Anderson for this post:

    iFuse (06-26-2014)

  11. #8
    Linda Buquet's Avatar
    Linda Buquet is offline Community Leader - Google Local Specialist
    Member Since
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    16,457
    Thanks
    2,704
    Thanked 4,943 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Thanks for the update Myles!

    The pack and the maps ranking does not always match. Usually it matches pretty much but if someone is penalized or there are other problems, they can rank high in maps, BUT they don't blend so don't rank in the pack.

    So the pack order and maps order are often off on 1 or 2 listings but it's the only thing we have right now I think.
    Is Our Content HELPFUL? Please pay the community back by sharing!

    LocalSearchForumLinda Buquet .:. Google Local Specialist

    Consulting, Troubleshooting & White Label Services for SEOs & Agencies

    Don't Miss Important News & Tips! SUBSCRIBE to Daily Email Digest Here

    Are you a PRO? Join the "Local Search Pros" G+ Community!

    Note: Due to mulitple RSI injuries, pardon short replies. Typos? Blame it on "Dragon". ;-)

  12. Members who thanked Linda Buquet for this post:

    iFuse (06-26-2014)

  13. #9
    Myles Anderson's Avatar
    Myles Anderson is offline Noted Expert
    Member Since
    Sep 2012
    Location
    London, UK
    Posts
    62
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 43 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Thanks for clarifying that Linda. I wasn't aware of the penalty issue not affecting Maps ranking.

    From our testing we're seeing pretty good correlation of maps to blended results, with occasional differences.

    But as you say we don't have an alternative option now, and maps is a more relevant product than the defunct old 'Places' page which were, for all intents, invisible to real search users.

  14. #10
    Linda Buquet's Avatar
    Linda Buquet is offline Community Leader - Google Local Specialist
    Member Since
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    16,457
    Thanks
    2,704
    Thanked 4,943 Times

    Re: RIP Places Search - Causing Google Local Rank Tracking Problems - New Google Upda

    Quote Originally Posted by Myles Anderson View Post
    Thanks for clarifying that Linda. I wasn't aware of the penalty issue not affecting Maps ranking.

    From our testing we're seeing pretty good correlation of maps to blended results, with occasional differences.
    Here's one that just came in today. #1 on maps. Not in pack.

    First spot on maps.google.com but not showing in the local pack?
    Is Our Content HELPFUL? Please pay the community back by sharing!

    LocalSearchForumLinda Buquet .:. Google Local Specialist

    Consulting, Troubleshooting & White Label Services for SEOs & Agencies

    Don't Miss Important News & Tips! SUBSCRIBE to Daily Email Digest Here

    Are you a PRO? Join the "Local Search Pros" G+ Community!

    Note: Due to mulitple RSI injuries, pardon short replies. Typos? Blame it on "Dragon". ;-)

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Local Exact Match Domains Still Rank - Google Algo Update
    By Linda Buquet in forum Local Search
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 08-04-2013, 09:09 PM
  2. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 01-21-2013, 10:55 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •