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    Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Hi Guys, I'm posting again because I need some help from the experts. Thanks to everyone's awesomeness and willingness to help and some help from Linda as well - I was able to track down that I had a duplicate listing. After taking care of that, the local rankings still havent gotten back to the top page where they were for so long.

    The site in the 7 pack for the following keywords for about a year or so and then suddenly dropped out. Any ideas on why? For the sites that are ranking in the local pack, we have a decent amount of them beat in reviews/location to center/citations/on page SEO/etc - why are they outranking us?

    Could this have anything to do with the organic rankings?

    ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED THANK YOU

    Keywords
    austin personal trainer
    personal trainer austin
    austin personal training
    personal training austin

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    Google - https://plus.google.com/103766686315267215059
    URL - Personal Trainer Austin TX - Complete Fitness Design

    A few notes
    - deleted dupe listing that client had created under a diff email back in Aug 14
    - no manual spam actions in Webmaster tools
    - decently clean backlink profile (submitted disavow list to clean up the junk in there)
    - over 50 strong accurate citations
    - only a few incorrect citations
    - he is ranking around 25-30 for main keyword, with a huge traffic drop after Penguin 2.1 in October 13.

    For more info, here are 2 reports from BL showing the strength of the profile
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3s...ew?usp=sharing
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3s...ew?usp=sharing


    I'll be here to answer any and all questions, I just need some help

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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Is there another post with that you did with more details? I'm curious about when you experienced the ranking drop?

    One thing that really jumps out when I look at the 7-pack pre and post pigeon is that almost every post pigeon result has the word Austin in the business name. I'm not saying you should go and add it to your name but it's pretty interesting.

    Also, a couple of the current results seem like they have spammy, keyword rich business names that don't match the website.
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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Hi Colan thanks so much for chiming in. I'm having issues posting the thread on my phone but if you check my post history and the previous thread I started. I would be happy to provide any details you needed. It happened around March or April of this year and we made no major changes to the website itself other than deleting the duplicate listing. We also optimized some of the Google+ profileissues that we thought may have been the cause.

    You're right about the current companies in the pack. They mostly have low back link accountsand pages that aren't the most optimized..but maybe that's what's working?

    Its also frustrating that we are still ranking 30 organically with an on page optimized site and good backlink profile.

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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Thanks Linda..chrome on android wouldn't let me copy/paste the URL for some reason.

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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Oh man, I forgot how convoluted that one was. You know there is something one of our members dubbed a penalty hangover, where even after you fix a problem the penalty lingers for 5 months or so. I wonder if there is a hangover for having 2 listings or one of the other problems.

    However the timing with Penguin is also suspicious. But Penguin penalties are not my area of expertise so let's see what some others say.
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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Haha that one was definitely a mess. But thanks to everyone's help I was able to get the dupe located and deleted!

    I just find it so strange that with a decent backlink profile, the site is still being punished on the organic and local side. The date drop off came right after the penguin update but I didnt know how/if that affected local.

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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Well Local is pretty much based on organic ranking. Maybe even more so since the Pigeon algo hit in July.

    I have seen some sites hit by Penguin that still ranked in the pack but only if they were really strong on the local side. Typically if you don't rank high in organic you won't rank in the pack.
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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Quote Originally Posted by txsigma41 View Post

    I just find it so strange that with a decent backlink profile, the site is still being punished on the organic and local side. The date drop off came right after the penguin update but I didnt know how/if that affected local.
    Link clean up can be very tricky. I'm learning this a lot lately. Its totally possible that there are still some links that are hurting you and/or you disavowed some quality links that you didn't need to. I'm no expert in this specific area but I'm picking lots of tips up along the way.
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    Re: Personal Trainer local ranking issues

    Let me know if you need help with the organic link penalty if you think that's what it is.
    A friend of mine is the leader in that area.
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