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    Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Hi,

    So a great poster here mentioned that getting .EDU links would be a great thing to do. Yet how?

    I see sites that sell .edu packages, but does Google and the search engines care?

    I mean is there such thing as a bad edu or gov link?

    Like is a bad edu link better than a link from some weird directory?

    Thank you for any tips on how to obtain edu and gov links

    Chris

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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Links are still a good thing in the eyes of Google. But they're not a good thing if you come at them from the view of "getting links".

    Have something (content) that people want to link to.

    How do you do that for gov or edu? Write something they want to link to or reference. Write something remarkable, something quality.

    Buying links... well that's like playing Russian roulette these days (things have changed a lot in SEO since 2011). Might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later it's going to catch up with you.

    I would never, ever suggest someone buy links.

    Matt Cutts, head of Webspam team at Google did an interview recently, specifically on the topic of links and linkbuilding. Please have a read. Link Building Is Not Illegal (or Inherently Bad) with Matt Cutts

    And Google's guidelines:
    https://support.google.com/webmaster...er/66356?hl=en

    Any links intended to manipulate PageRank or a site's ranking in Google search results may be considered part of a link scheme and a violation of Google’s Webmaster Guidelines. This includes any behavior that manipulates links to your site or outgoing links from your site


    By the sounds of your question, you interest in gov and edu links is to manipulate the search engines. IF that's true, that's not cool or kosher.

    Directory links can be useful, if they're relevant or related to your business. Directory listings for the sake of directory listings - that's along the lines of one of the other questions you've already asked about citations.

    Please stop thinking about the links and think about what value and quality you can contribute to your audience.
    Last edited by Linda Buquet; 03-23-2014 at 08:22 PM. Reason: Awarded with new hashtag #greatadvice

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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    You inspired me to create a new hashtag Margaret #greatadvice!
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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Quote Originally Posted by wonderwoman View Post
    Links are still a good thing in the eyes of Google. But they're not a good thing if you come at them from the view of "getting links".

    Have something (content) that people want to link to.

    How do you do that for gov or edu? Write something they want to link to or reference. Write something remarkable, something quality.

    Buying links... well that's like playing Russian roulette these days (things have changed a lot in SEO since 2011). Might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later it's going to catch up with you.

    I would never, ever suggest someone buy links.

    Matt Cutts, head of Webspam team at Google did an interview recently, specifically on the topic of links and linkbuilding. Please have a read. Link Building Is Not Illegal (or Inherently Bad) with Matt Cutts

    And Google's guidelines:
    https://support.google.com/webmaster...er/66356?hl=en

    Any links intended to manipulate PageRank or a site's ranking in Google search results may be considered part of a link scheme and a violation of Google’s Webmaster Guidelines. This includes any behavior that manipulates links to your site or outgoing links from your site


    By the sounds of your question, you interest in gov and edu links is to manipulate the search engines. IF that's true, that's not cool or kosher.

    Directory links can be useful, if they're relevant or related to your business. Directory listings for the sake of directory listings - that's along the lines of one of the other questions you've already asked about citations.

    Please stop thinking about the links and think about what value and quality you can contribute to your audience.

    I assure you I am not in any way trying to abuse any system of Google and I am offended that you address this as stating that

    "By the sounds of your question, you interest in gov and edu links is to manipulate the search engines."

    I am here for research to better my website. Until now I felt like people here helped without speculation. I was just following up from a tip I got from a well known poster here.

    If my website is based on an industry unrelated to an edu or gov site, is that considered spam? and bad?

    Not everyone here is looking to get one past Google.

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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Wow, I'm honoured! Thanks Linda

    ---------- Post Merged at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 04:25 PM ----------

    Apologies Chris, it was not my intention to offend. Perhaps I did come at it with a bias, a biased based on experience when people ask about backlinks, gov, edu links, buying links and so on. I also did say "IF that's true", but I take your point. My humble apologies.

    In regards to your industry - if gov or edu doesn't naturally fit into your content, your industry, your intended audience, then logically it seems out of place, yes?

    On the other hand, if you're a plumbing service, and you do pro-bono work (or some other such notable situation) for a school and they provide you with a link as a preferred supplier or in an online thank you post , etc, then in that context the link makes sense. And in that context, it's logical. And in that context, it shouldn't be a problem.

    Does that make sense?

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    Angry Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Furthermore, My title stated it, I was looking for the right way to obtain and ask for edu and gov links.

    I thought maybe by offering a scholarship to colleges would get proper backlinks?

    I am not sure how things work. Maybe you have to buy Edu and Gov links from some sites as a donation? Then they link back to you?

    There is no need to accuse someone of manipulating Google. I was just told to get some edu and gov links, and did not know how.

    You tell me to:

    "Please stop thinking about the links and think about what value and quality you can contribute to your audience."

    But I am just here trying to get help, I was told get these types of links, so I was asking how to obtain them. I am working on my content, and my site quality.

    And you get rewarded for bashing me?

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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoChris View Post
    I assure you I am not in any way trying to abuse any system of Google and I am offended that you address this as stating that

    "By the sounds of your question, you interest in gov and edu links is to manipulate the search engines."

    I am here for research to better my website. Until now I felt like people here helped without speculation. I was just following up from a tip I got from a well known poster here.

    If my website is based on an industry unrelated to an edu or gov site, is that considered spam? and bad?

    Not everyone here is looking to get one past Google.
    Chris,

    Margaret was not trying to be accusatory and I'm sorry you took it that way.

    I know you weren't trying to pull one over and I don't think she meant to be accusatory, but offer you some constructive criticism.

    Actually much of what she said is the exact way Google explains it. In fact some of it was direct quotes and I thought she explained the issue well.

    So please don't take it personally. Everyone is human and has an opinion. Some here maybe aren't up on the latest changes or use older methods and have not been slapped yet.

    It's true edu links can help. But it's even more true that if you want to stay on the safe side of the law, you should not buy links. So I agree with Margaret.
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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoChris View Post
    Furthermore, My title stated it, I was looking for the right way to obtain and ask for edu and gov links.

    I thought maybe by offering a scholarship to colleges would get proper backlinks?

    I am not sure how things work. Maybe you have to buy Edu and Gov links from some sites as a donation? Then they link back to you?

    There is no need to accuse someone of manipulating Google. I was just told to get some edu and gov links, and did not know how.

    You tell me to:

    "Please stop thinking about the links and think about what value and quality you can contribute to your audience."

    But I am just here trying to get help, I was told get these types of links, so I was asking how to obtain them. I am working on my content, and my site quality.

    And you get rewarded for bashing me?
    Sorry Chris all 3 of us posted at about the same time, so I must have been typing earlier at same time you posted because, I didn't see your last post OR Margaret's apology above. So our replies are out of order. My post above was replying to your 2nd post, and I had not seen the 3rd until now.

    Sorry I wasn't rewarding her for bashing you as I honestly didn't read it that way and didn't think it sounded accusatory at all at the time. But now in reading it back and hearing your concerns I understand.

    We get people all the time wanting to take a short cut or not even caring about playing by the rules and I thought she explained well the pitfalls of paying for links which Google does view as ranking manipulation. So I did the hashtag because I thought it was well explained for those that don't know the danger. And I do feel she was just trying to be helpful but could have maybe picked better wording.

    The mistake was her assuming you were trying to do a short cut or not caring about playing by the rules and she apologized for that. But again I was not rewarding her for that because the way I read it initially (skimmed it really which is all I had time to do) it did not sound that bad. But again now that I hear how it sounded to you I understand, why you are upset and we are both very sorry.
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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    Honestly it was late on a Sunday night and I was still buried with tech problems and could barely skim. I just missed the part of her post that made you upset.

    I just removed the hashtag for great advice because we obviously don't want to draw attention to a thread that makes anyone feel bad. (I know Margaret will understand.)

    Almost midnight and I'm so tired I can't see straight. I'll re-visit this in the morning and read the whole thing with fresh eyes.

    Have a good night all. Hopefully in the morning we can all kiss and make up.
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    Re: Getting .EDU and .GOV links the right way? Or is there one?

    A good lesson on intentions.

    I didn't intend to offend him.
    Chris doesn't intend to do the wrong thing in the eyes of Google.

    But the actions could be seen as such.

    Apologies again Chris, and to you Linda.

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