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    Unhappy Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    OK so this is weird. Think I figured it out, but not sure...

    Have you ever seen a plain G+ Business page rank in the pack?
    (To tell it's not a G+ Local page - no review feature and "story" instead of description.)

    This is the Los Angeles personal injury attorney SERP so many of us have complained about, due to the spammy violation filled listings that surfaced as soon as Pigeon hit.
    Here is one of my screenshots from beginning of August.


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    In case you have not been following along. I explain the problem at bottom of the screen shot. C & D violate due to both being fake KW stuffed names, plus there are multiple listings for the same practice, (he has at least 3 other listings) plus they don't link directly to site which is another violation - they link to LA search results pages of high authority sites. And additionally - pre-Pigeon Google would not award 1 attorney 2 listings in a competitive pack like LA, especially with the same phone#.

    Since I know many of us have reported those listings, I check the pack a couple times a week to see if they are gone. Today I checked and found something odd.

    The one that's C above - that's linked to Avvo still ranks. BUT that's not the odd part.

    The cray cray Pigeon is ranking that page even though now it's just a G+ Business page.
    NOT a verified local page with reviews - so it's technically not even possible for it to be ranking.


    Here it is in the SERPs los angeles personal injury attorney - The Avvo listing is now ranking B for me on both FF and Chrome. But check it out. It's NOT a G+ Local page! It's a G+ Business page!

    So here is what I 'think' happened. When there is a GMB violation, Google sometimes instead of deleting or suspending the entire page, just deletes, suspends or disables the local part of the page - which leaves the G+ page with social features, BUT no ability to rank or have reviews.

    So I think maybe Google finally took action on this page and disabled Local - it just for whatever reason is still in the pack. I'm hoping it drops out in the next couple days. Let's watch it and see.

    Then lets all gang up on the one that's left and see if we can get it removed too. That is not the practice name - it's "The Law Offices of Robert A. Brenner" and he already has 3 other listings too.

    Check that link above in Classic Maps. That Avvo listing is ranking in maps too and is even showing service area settings, but again when you click through, it's only a stripped down G+ page now.

    Have you ever seen a plain G+ Business page rank in the pack?
    You agree it was stripped of local and has just not dropped out of the pack yet?

    Bets on how long it will take to drop off?
    I say within 2 days

    Who will gang up with me and report the other one???


    PS I don't have a dog in this fight - don't even have clients any more. Just doing it for the integrity of the search results and to try to help train this cray cray Pigeon.

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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Whoa. Nice find, Linda. Now I've seen it all.

    Just reported that listing.

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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Thanks for reporting that other listing Phil.

    I'm off to do it again now too.
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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Wait Phil, how exactly did you report so I can follow the same path.

    Forgot address is hidden so RAP does not work. Feedback right on the knowledge graph used to work even for SABs, but they shut the door on that too.

    How did you report?
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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Buquet View Post
    Wait Phil, how exactly did you report so I can follow the same path.

    Forgot address is hidden so RAP does not work. Feedback right on the knowledge graph used to work even for SABs, but they shut the door on that too.

    How did you report?
    I just pulled up the knowledge graph for the spammy result, and clicked on the microscopic "Feedback" link.

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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    That's what I tried but I was in FF, will try it with Chrome next.

    However I don't know how much that will do because I think that feedback goes to either the organic or G+ team, not the local team that's more involved with GMB violations.
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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Buquet View Post
    That's what I tried but I was in FF, will try it with Chrome next.

    However I don't know how much that will do because I think that feedback goes to either the organic or G+ team, not the local team that's more involved with GMB violations.
    Yeah, I'm on Chrome.

    The feedback link took me to Maps - the ersatz "Report a problem" feature that seems to have replaced "Edit details" (as Colan reported the other day). It's as local-specific as it gets, so I'm pretty sure the GMB people will see it. (Of course, whether they do anything is another matter.)

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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Thanks Phil. Yes I just did it on Chrome and it goes to new maps. Awhile back that feedback link went to more of a blank troubleshooter type form fill that looked like it was G+ related.

    I forgot that feedback still works with hidden addresses as long as you are on new maps. (I normally use FF connected to Classic.)

    To make it easier for others to report. Here is what I said. Copy and change it up a bit, don't paste exactly.

    NAME FIELD:
    Fake name in violation with GMB guidelines. Name = Law Offices of Robert A. Brenner - But he already has 3 other listings so this is a dupe.

    NOTES FIELD:
    This listing is spam, violates several GMB guidelines and has been reported multiple times. 1) Fake KW stuffed name 2) Duplicate - he already has 3 other listings. 3) Since address is hidden I'm assuming address in dash is a bogus location - virtual office or Regus. 4) Does not link directly to his site but to a general search result on a high authority directory. Listing should be removed.
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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Just reported that listing Linda!

    Here is what I'm seeing in Miami:
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    Re: Cray Cray Pigeon is Ranking Plain G+ Business Page in the Pack!

    Thanks Stefano, that's what I saw earlier too.

    And thanks for reporting too!
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