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    Why Losing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    I would like to know why you loose ranking in local results, while citations are power synced by yext?

    Could it be someone is doing black hat, or negative SEO towards a business, the rest of businesses in search results have incorrect citations!

    any idea?

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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    There is a lot more to ranking than just entering a business into Yext.

    Also, if their citations have a lot of issues, just entering into Yext doesn't fix them all, just the ones you see. There could still be a lot of others that need fixed.

    Also it can be the website itself, the settings on the G+Local listing, the backlinks pointing to the site...etc. You haven't really given us a lot of details to work with to answer in more details, but that is the overview.

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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    Well, as i have done SEO for the business i am pretty sure the on site optimization is done pretty well, the back-links, this website was penalized long time ago which we cleaned , the last person in charge did everything to manipulate google algorithm, but fortunately we came with better solutions and fixed it. it was getting reanked good enough in local but since two days ago it dropped.

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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    Yeah, I've have experienced the same issue. Clients citations were good already and I had them add Yext to mange them all and get them up to date. Rankings dropped right after...

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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    I usually hear the opposite about Yext as far as rankings going up if anything.

    But Greg is totally right. There are so many other factors and citations are not the main thing any more. There are over 200 factors that do into the local algo and citations, since the Pigeon update are not quite as strong of a factor. So I doubt that's the reason.

    Could be a dupe cropped up, even a hidden dupe you can't see - need to learn how to find those. Could be a violation, could be algo change or competitors leap frogged.

    It would be like guessing in the dark without seeing the listing and analyzing the pack.

    Often when I diagnose ranking penalties I find it's due to violations of the Google My Business guidelines - even unwritten rules that many consultants are not aware of.

    Here is a post that goes into detail about how to troubleshoot ranking problems:
    http://localsearchforum.catalystemar...-drop-out.html

    Here's another good ranking troubleshooting tips post: http://localsearchforum.catalystemar...practices.html

    If you don't mind sharing the clients G+ Local link and specific KW - I'll most this new post down to the help forum - then we can take a look and give you tips. We are pretty good at uncovering penalties and other problems that usually cause ranking drops.
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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    Yes we usually hear things which are advertised brilliantly, however i have never seen anyone taking the challenge and dig into this matter, whether Yext is working or it is a loss, up to this point i can say unfortunately it is the only option when you like to clean incorrect citations and try to keep them constant, but on the other hand it does not do things clean enough. And you will only find out about it when you call to one of these directories and talk to their support team. The business listings submitted by yext is not claimed and time to time here and there you will see profiles telling you it is not claimed, or you might find yourself in a wrong directory, where if you do things manually you have the complete control.

    On the other hand i am getting to a point where i am beginning to think the whole google search algorithm is a joke and is becoming absolute, and i have good examples of it. Also businesses without physical location are getting ranked in local, this is not right! and when you check them on the google earth you can not see the actual location but they tagged their company on map! google needs to do something about this. Here is the keyword plumber los angeles
    Last edited by Gsmithmike; 12-10-2014 at 03:51 PM. Reason: adding more info

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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    Thanks for adding the link so we can research.

    I'll move this down to the help and support forum since it's about a specific client and as we get time we'll take a peek and offer suggestions.

    But we need the G+ L link not the site link. Since there are lots of locations we'd be guessing which ones rank or don't. So please be more specific and give us one G+ L page that's having the ranking problem. We can research 14 locations.
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    Re: Why Losing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    Alright i will do that it is the location in los angeles, i honestly can not find what the real problem the listing is synced to yext power listing, and i cleaned as much as i can, also created some back links related to plumbing, and plumber los angeles but they again in two days or a week it lost its ranking and none of the businesses showing in local have physical location in the area.

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    Re: Why Loosing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    Trying to make time to look at the listing but wanted to comment on your post above.

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    Also businesses without physical location are getting ranked in local, this is not right! and when you check them on the google earth you can not see the actual location but they tagged their company on map!
    That is by design!

    In case you are not aware, service area businesses like plumbers in MOST cases need to have their address hidden. It's a violation for address to show. So that is not someone hiding address to game the system, they are abiding by the rules.

    "you can not see the actual location but they tagged their company on map!"

    Many of your Mr Speedy locations have address hidden as well, as they are supposed to.
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    Re: Why Losing Ranking while your citations are power synced and correct?

    OK so only had a quick minute to look at this one.

    A couple issues I see, but don't know how much any of these are impacting ranking...

    1) Address should be hidden from the looks of that building.
    Are they staffed full time to accept walk in traffic off of the street?

    2) The G+ L page links to the home page. I wonder if it might rank higher if linked to the LA page. It's a toss up. Home pages usually have more authority, but the LA page has more LA content. (I would however clean up the large bank of cities in the footer of your location pages and that is now considered spam by Google.

    3) KW repetition in G+ Local descriptions can cause a ranking penalty. You have LA twice and plumber/plumbing like 5 times. I'd clean that up.

    Others feel free to dig in with suggestions as well.
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