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    Question New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    I wanted to highlight an advanced tip/hack regarding the new local changes...
    A new easier way to get to the G+ page for research & troubleshooting.

    AND speculate about something new that may be coming.
    A new local maps profile page to replace the "Views" page? (Image below)
    It's all connected so follow along, boys and girls.


    h/t to Broland from Directory Bug, (link to his post at bottom) for some info that lead me, in part, to the following tip and speculation.

    #1 Hot Tip/Hack - Easier Way to Find G+ Pages - OK so we all know Google has pretty much disconnected Google + from Local Google+. The links are all gone from general searches.

    Only SEOs would know how to find the related G+ listing for a given search. AND we are the only ones that even care and need to see them. Mainly for new potential clients to see if they have a keyword stuffed description and to check completeness of the page. (Or I guess sometimes for competitive research and rank analysis too.)

    Recently the only way to find the page was very cumbersome. You'd need to find the listing in Map Maker (copy/paste from search, then search Map Maker). Then if there are multiples, try to figure out which one you were looking at. Then view source to find the CID, then know how to format the link as a G+ link to get to the G+ page. (If you have RSI problems like I do that's way too much click/drag/highlight/copy/paste/searching to even be worth doing.)

    NEW WAY + NEW DISCOVERY

    1) From search results, click the listing you are interested in. (Not the website, but the business name.) This will take you to the new "Local Finder" with a knowledge graph for that business. 2) Click photos in the knowledge graph. 3) That will take you to a page showing the images.

    4) But here's the kicker. Click the 2nd instance of the name in the top left on that photos page.
    (The top link for the name is borked.) That will take you to a page I'd never paid attention to previously - a page we never talked about in connection to local before. The Google Maps Views Profile page. Click that link to see a sample. NOTE: the URL format is googleDOTcom/maps/views/profile/longnumber/additionalparameters.... You'll need that URL for step #5.

    5) That long number is the same number as the one in the G+ Local URL. So to get to the G+ L page, leave that number intact and replace the 1st part of the maps URL with a G+ URL as follows. (Just replace the parts in red - can strip off the rest.)

    Code:
    VIEW Page: https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/117282003257983155227
    
    G+ Page: https://plus.google.com/117282003257983155227

    #2 Speculation (Prediction?) - New Local Page to Replace G+?

    I'm not sure about this. It's largely speculation. I don't have any insider info from Google and if I did and told you, I'd have to shoot you, so here goes... follow along boys and girls...

    Good bye Google "Views" - we barely got to know you!
    New Local profile page coming mid August??? (Maybe???)

    I mentioned above that the 1st link on that images page is broken and does not work. Well there are lots more problems in paradise for these "Views" pages. (At least as far as local info discovery goes.)


    Let's look at that Views Profile page
    No wonder this product is being retired! Just a few problems Google...


    Views

    1) It says "Follow on G+" SRSLY??? You can't even get to the G+ page to check out posts, to see if you want to follow their page!

    2) This Seattle Chiro's map is in the middle east?

    3) 16 photos but none of the links on this page show them, so all images are MIA.
    (It's a "Views" image page but no images work.)

    4) No reviews on the page.

    5) Plus no contact info, description or categories. But this currently is not designed to be a business listing. Just a photo listing. But photos are missing, so it's not much of a photo page either.

    BUT HERE IS THE BIGGIE - Right now this "Views" page is the only page a consumer could even find and get to from the main keyword Google search results. And only if they clicked to view photos from the knowledge graph in the new "Local Finder". (Which admittedly most would not think to do.)

    But at top of page it says: Views is becoming part of Google Maps. Learn more.
    If you follow that link it explains "Views" is being deprecated this month. It says:

    "Your Views profile will have a new look and feel, and be transferred over to Google Maps when Views goes offline in mid–August."

    So... I wonder if this new maps page will be a more rich profile for businesses, where the images actually work and there is contact info, description, categories and reviews???

    Probably not because "Views" seems to be more for photos. But the photos don't show up on those local Views pages anyway, so who knows.

    At any rate, I'll be keeping an eye on these "Views" pages to see how they change once transitioned to Google Maps pages.

    h/t to Broland from Directory Bug for the tip about the URL hack to get to G+. See his tips here.

    What do you think? Any other speculation or thoughts to share???


    P.S. In case you've been on vaca or live in a cave, here's the background info on all these changes:
    Goodbye 7 Packs! Only 3 Packs with No Phone # or Address for All Local Results
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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Going to be a bumpy ride.
    Scott Rawlins - Find Local Company in Atlanta GA
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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    I follow the train of though Linda and it makes sense to a point. These pages as they currently sit do nothing for the end user....if they can even find them. I mentioned this in my first post about the Local Crap Pack (I enjoy this name). I didnt even think of clicking on the upper left brand name but did click on the Terms of Service in the bottom right and it took me to a similar page saying Views will be gone soon.

    Itd be nice if there was a place to input additional, useful information about the business which people can actually find.

    Thanks for digging!

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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    Wow this is so much faster than my method. Thanks for sharing. I always wondered what Views was going to become.

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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    For now at least, a brand and address specific search will still result in a single local result for the listing I want, from which you can still access the G+ page link. So for example if I search "Seattle Chiropractic 3611 Woodland Park Ave N, Seattle, WA 98103" on Google I see this: 2015-08-12_0836 - screenshot. That's how I'm getting to the G+ pages still. Not sure if this is useful for researching at large, but it's been useful to me to at least have a way to get to the +page quickly.

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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    Thanks so much Sara, I forgot to mention that. Brand searches (IF single location) still show G+ link, for now, but who knows how much longer? It's really the only easily discoverable like left.
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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    What a great find! I followed your instructions and found something about Views I'd like to share. The Maps location depends on GPS metadata of the photos which contain them. My Google+ listing has 11 photos, of which 7 show up in Views and they all were photos I took.

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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    Great find Linda and a great hack too!

    Just wanted to mention that if you're logged into Google and you hover over the Follow button, you can see the name of the Google+ page there (in blue).
    Name:  Screen Shot 2015-08-13 at 8.42.22 AM.jpg
Views: 97
Size:  22.8 KB
    Clicking on that name takes you straight to the page - so a bit less copying, pasting and typing hopefully.

    And if you're not logged in, you see the following Google+ button which takes you straight to the page as well:
    Name:  Screen Shot 2015-08-13 at 8.43.49 AM.jpg
Views: 156
Size:  25.0 KB
    Priya Chandra
    Consulting, training, troubleshooting - Local Search, with an Australian flavour
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    @priyachandra
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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    Thanks Linda, this is very helpful!

    ---------- Post Merged at 08:07 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 08:06 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Priya Chandra View Post
    Great find Linda and a great hack too!

    Just wanted to mention that if you're logged into Google and you hover over the Follow button, you can see the name of the Google+ page there (in blue).
    Name:  Screen Shot 2015-08-13 at 8.42.22 AM.jpg
Views: 97
Size:  22.8 KB
    Clicking on that name takes you straight to the page - so a bit less copying, pasting and typing hopefully.

    And if you're not logged in, you see the following Google+ button which takes you straight to the page as well:
    Name:  Screen Shot 2015-08-13 at 8.43.49 AM.jpg
Views: 156
Size:  25.0 KB
    Amazing find! Thanks Priya! You da bomb.
    Colan Nielsen l GMB Top Contributor
    Vice President, Local Search at Sterling Sky
    Connect on Google + and Twitter

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    Re: New Local 3 Pack Advanced Hack PLUS Speculation: New Style Local Page Coming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Priya Chandra View Post
    Great find Linda and a great hack too!

    Just wanted to mention that if you're logged into Google and you hover over the Follow button, you can see the name of the Google+ page there (in blue).
    Name:  Screen Shot 2015-08-13 at 8.42.22 AM.jpg
Views: 97
Size:  22.8 KB
    Clicking on that name takes you straight to the page - so a bit less copying, pasting and typing hopefully.

    And if you're not logged in, you see the following Google+ button which takes you straight to the page as well:
    Name:  Screen Shot 2015-08-13 at 8.43.49 AM.jpg
Views: 156
Size:  25.0 KB
    Shoot. Thanks Priya!

    It's either Google's over subtle UI or I'm blind, because I tried 3 times and every time all I saw was the selection boxes for all my circles. Never saw the linked name there.

    So scratch this whole post. Maybe I should wake up before posting.
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