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    Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?
    by Mr-X on ThreadWatch
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    A lot of posts that I read on the 'Net lately are about how switching from HTTP to HTTPS leads to lost rankings and disaster. It doesn't have to be that way though. On SEO Chat, users are discussing what you need to do to prepare for an HTTPS migration in this thread. One of the mods there has transcribed some solid advice from John Mueller. The mod also says that he's never had major issues migrating, and he seems like an open dude. So if you have any questions, that'd be the thread to ask them in.

    I was reminded of that thread because HTTPS migrations were in the news yesterday. The SEM Post published two stories: one story about how you can move partial sites to HTTPS, and another about how using a 301 or 302 to redirect to HTTPS results in no PageRank loss.
    Read more...

    What has been your experience in making the HTTP -> HTTPS transition?

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    What is the point tho?

    how is a general info website different based on this factor?

    It makes sense if you log into a website for it to change to https but i simply don't understand what the push is to make all websites https ...

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    To eliminate or minimize man in the middle attacks, loss of passwords and personal data, etc.


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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    Quote Originally Posted by djbaxter View Post
    To eliminate or minimize man in the middle attacks, loss of passwords and personal data, etc.


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    i can understand a site that you log into being https but a website that has no user interaction other than clicking links and reading pages ... i don't understand.

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    There's a writeup here by Yoast that answers some of that I think, though I know a lot less about this than some of the other people on this forum. My understanding, is there's a few reasons:
    1 - a lot of people suck at adopting. Recommending that everyone does it everywhere will keep things from slipping through (like comment logins to leave something on a blog, that sort of thing). Telling everyone everywhere to do it might get better coverage, since a lot of people making websites don't really know what they're doing anyway, and most users use the same passwords everywhere.
    2 - a lot of platforms (wordpress) suck at having a mixed http/https setup, better to recommend everyone migrates everything I guess.
    3 - speed drops associated with https have workarounds now.
    4 - I don't know much about the PPC/user tracking side of things, so someone else will have to weigh in more to correct me/elaborate, but it sounds like a web that's spotty between http and https makes it harder for data trackers to get full data from users browsing the web.

    That's my layman's understanding at least. I imagine the real truth, it's not 100% important for everyone to switch from a pure security standpoint, but since Google's got so much influence on web best practices, and since people en masse are so bad at following directions, it was probably wisest to make a blanket recommendation than to say something more complicated and risk hurting adoption.

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    Every time Google makes an arbitrary and high-handed pronouncement like this, regardless of whether or it is reasonable, necessary or "fair", it means more work for all of us. Just like every time the government fiddles with the tax laws, resulting in more work for accountants and tax lawyers. Sad but true.

    Google <== "It's good to be the king" (obscure Mel Brooks reference)

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    From a biz perspective its an easy speed win, with https and cloudflare you get SPDY and http2 support, quite a big speed win.

    Encryption is becoming increasingly important and there is an inbuilt expectation that the web is secure. EG 10 years ago encryption on email protocols (smtp, pop3, imap) was unheard of. Today it's standard largely because Gmail has pushed it along.

    If you're running both http and https there is potentially some canonical benefit by having the http 301 to https

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrendanT View Post
    SPDY
    Just an FYI, Google is discontinuing support for SPDY within from Chrome in favor of http/2 since it's using spdy/2 as a base for http/2 now.

    On February 11, 2016, Google announced that Chrome will no longer support SPDY and NPN since May 15, 2016

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY
    I assume it's an effort to make all this less confusing.
    Last edited by djbaxter; 02-17-2016 at 11:14 AM.

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    but still theres a reason http and https exist. If http seizes to exist i would assume hackers would simply become more fascinated and capable of hacking https.

    There is sooo much logic in the world today that does so little if anything to improve anything at all.

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    Re: Scared to Migrate from HTTP to HTTPS?

    I mean... that's true I guess, but it's a little like saying that if everyone starts locking their doors, then thieves would start learning how to lock pick instead of just looking for easy marks. You're probably right, but there's still a pretty fundamental difference between 'encrypted' and 'not encrypted'.

    I think at the end of the day, there's a giant arm's race going on. I heard a quote recently I liked too... we'll never be able to completely beat the hackers, because while both sides are working hard, they're the ones that are desperate.

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