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    Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    Hi all,

    We were checking some keywords this afternoon and came across something puzzling. For the query "Las Vegas Breast Augmentation" the three pack looks like this:

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    Positions 1 and 2 make perfect sense, but position 3 is rather wacky. As you can see, Dr. Stuart Linder is not in Las Vegas. He's actually in Beverly Hills, CA. The website isn't ranking organically, just in the local pack. Now in case you were wondering, the distance from Vegas to Beverly hills is 282.7 miles. I don't think that's relevant. Even more puzzling is what happens when you click into the local pack:

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    Only four plastic surgeon results in all of Las Vegas? No. Definitely not. I've seen the rare situation where the local pack is shifted, maybe even to a suburb, but never this extreme.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    That's pretty extreme Dillon. I'll try to take a closer look later if I can.

    Curious why that guy got picked so far away AND with so many other cos surgeons in Bev Hills.
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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    Thanks, Linda! I'm really interested to see what the cause of this could be.

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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    I see similar results from time to time. Usually it's because relevant businesses in the area do not give good local signals.
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    I don't think it's the case with the Vegas listing though.

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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    Dr. Linder does have a location in Las Vegas along with a website but why would his Beverly Hills location get pulled up?

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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    Wow it's been a while since I've seen one of these. Something is messed up with the listing which is probably attaching the data for his Las Vegas office somehow to this one. I can report it to Google.
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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    @alakov - I think with your example it's so wide-spread because there aren't many listings using the "loan agency" category so it causes Google to zoom the map out.
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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    Hi All!

    Sorry this is all my doing

    Dr. Linder had a verified Las Vegas business listing but he's not located in LV (only Beverly Hills). I reported this to Mike from @GoogleMyBiz & he marked Dr. Linder's Vegas listing as "moved." That is why his Beverly Hills listing is showing up instead of the Vegas listing. FYI, the website link on Dr. Linder's verified LV listing does not list any Vegas addresses.

    I asked Mike about Dr. Linder's BH listing still showing up in the map pack and this was his response:
    "I confirmed that Dr. Linder no longer has an active business listing in Las Vegas. The listing should drop off over time as it loses relevancy. It may still be appearing in search results for a short time if other non-Google listings and data sources are still giving the business presence in Las Vegas."

    Joy, the Las Vegas address listed on Dr. Linder's other website is actually forDesert Dermatology & they have no clue who Dr. Linder is. Some shady business going on here.

    Hopefully I was able to shed some light on this situation!

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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    Rachel,

    So does he not know who owns this site then? It has his name on both locations: Breast Implants Las Vegas | Stuart A. Linder, M.D.
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    Re: Ranking from quite a distance. Has anyone ever seen this?

    @JoyHawkins,

    There is City Financial in Woodstock with this category. Sometimes, Google also shows BMO (Woodstock) in the 3 pack. But more often than not Google tries to be very specific and find loan and car related listings and shows different listings from all over Ontario (this 3 pack is very unstable, with an exception of Woodstock Hyundai, which makes sense).

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