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    Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    As an Italian restaurant whose home city is in Raleigh, NC one important keyword for us is "Italian Restaurant Raleigh."

    Organically, we rank first. Yay! But over the past 7 months since the site launched I am not seeing movement in the "local" results, now the carousel (Which I don't care for. I liked the map results better....)


    If anyone sees something clearly wrong, would you please point me in the right direction? Any thoughts, appreciated. I feel I have done a good job with onsite stuff and citations/links are fairly high as compared to the competition.

    Here is the site:
    Http://miafrancescaraleigh.com

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    https://plus.google.com/u/0/117450561469120903519/posts

    Thanks again. I found this forum looking for a way to learn more. So stoked I found it!

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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Hey Harkey, welcome. I'm stoked you found us too.

    Moved your thread down to the help section since it's about a specific listing, not a general Q.

    Don't have time to look right now. I'll try to get back to it tonight but am buried. Hopefully some other members will weigh in in the meantime.
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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    I'm in a giving mood this morning.

    The business is ranking #21 locally so it is just one spot off from being in the carousel. This means it's not any kind of penalty on your G+ Local page.

    The problem is with your citations. NAP inconsistency. You have a few things stacking against you here.

    The street address being 4100 Main at North Hills St is fine and is recognized in Google maps. But having "at" in the street means you have to be a little more careful with formatting than the typical 4100 Main St type address. Things like St or Street, North or N are not a big deal and are recognized as the same, and Suites and their format don't matter much if at all,but once you start having enough differences in the street address format it can be unclear if that is the same business.

    There are also inconsistencies with the business name. The Google listing is 'Mia Francesca Trattoria Restaurant' but many of the citations are listed with 'Mia Francesca Trattoria'. This normally wouldn't be a huge deal but mixed with the inconsistencies in the street address, there are probably a good bit of citations that aren't providing the local ranking benefits they could/should be.

    Take a look at this yelp listing as an example, both business name and address. Mia Francesca Trattoria - Raleigh, NC

    Fixing those inconsistencies on any of the citations you can will help a lot. Also if you are updating them, take a little time to add some new descriptions (unique ones even) and some more photos where possible, this will help even further.

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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Broland,

    Thanks for the insight! I appreciate the time and advice. Looking at our citations, most have the address part that you pointed out in parity with the G+. The Yelp was off, and I have corrected. I had recently added "restaurant" to the end of the name of G+ in hopes that it would help. Should I remove it from G+ to have it in parity with other citations?

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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    The main thing is to stay consistent with one format for things. But in your case, yes I would probably change the Google listing back to 'Mia Francesca Trattoria'. You may need to reverify with a postcard for this.

    Check and stay consistent on at least the bigger directory and review sites - check you listings on merchantcircle and tripadvisor, both could use an update. I'm sure there are more with inconsistencies as well as just updating listings with fresh content as I mentioned earlier and plenty of new sites to list on. All these things will help. Keep in mind it can take a couple months or so for changes to be indexed and factored into the local algorithm.

    You may also want to consider adding Trattoria to the business name in the homepage title of the website and in the top right corner.

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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harkey View Post
    I had recently added "restaurant" to the end of the name of G+ in hopes that it would help. Should I remove it from G+ to have it in parity with other citations?
    If it's not part of the actual real-world business name, especially if you are adding a keyword or city name to the name, it's got to go. Major Google Places violation.
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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Broland View Post
    add some new descriptions (unique ones even) and some more photos where possible, this will help even further.
    69 photos on the Yelp page? WOW

    I haven't seen other recommendations for unique descriptions, generally you see suggestions for adding keywords, etc. Other than adding a little variety, what is the benefit to changing descriptions from one listing to another?

    Thanks

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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colan Nielsen View Post
    If it's not part of the actual real-world business name, especially if you are adding a keyword or city name to the name, it's got to go. Major Google Places violation.
    Yep adding a KW like that can get the listing suspended.
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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Per Brolands suggestion I removed it. There are a lot of "restaurants" that add that to their name on G+ and other locations.

    I also, per his advice, uploaded several new photos to Yelp, TripAdvisor, and G+.

    The change to the Website business heading was changed also. I am just wondering if it will affect the Schema that it was attached? I did not see any code for the name, only for the NAP.

    So far over night, several keywords took a hit, "Restaurant Raleigh" slid 7 places organically on google. Past page 50 on Bing. Might just be growing pains and I know this will take time.

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    Re: Organically doing well, Google + Local is a ?

    Having KW in the name DOES boost ranking as Google sees it as more relevant to the query. So if it was there and helped, then was removed you would naturally drop.

    However it's a violation so can get you suspended or deleted and then you'd not rank and all and it can take tons of time/works and months to get the listing back up where it was. In the past I've seen listings carry a 6 - 8 month ranking penalty.

    So you did the right thing removing it. Others will get away with it and some will eventually get caught.

    Sometimes when you change the name the listing starts over in the 6 week ranking cycle AND for every reaction in Google there is always a delayed reaction.

    So changing the name and adding a KW may have set you back, then changing name again to remove it may have set you back again.
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