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    I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    I rank on 1st page for organic search but on 8th page for maps. I have tried citations and still can't move up in maps. For some reason when I view my maps listing it is showing meta data that I had 3 months ago. I wonder why it hasnt updated but more curious why I can't rank in maps. Any feedback is appreciated, I didn't post my site because I'm not sure if it's allowed.
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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    Hi Jesse and welcome.

    Moved your post to help and support where links are allowed.

    The ranking algo is extremely complicated and there could be a wide variety of issues. That's what I refer to as a disconnected listing. (Disconnected from the Local pack.)

    Could be the listing is too new or was re-verified, or there's a bug, or it's penalized for violations or not well optimized, or there are other problems, or there are issues on your site (even though it ranks high). Can't really guess without investigating everything.

    Please give us a direct link to your Place page or the name, phone and city. Then we can try to help.

    Also include WHEN the listing was pin verified and exactly what key phrase you are trying to rank for.

    And let us know if it has never shown up for KW searches or if it DID rank for awhile, then disappeared - if so, when.
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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    Thank you for the fast response. My listing was verified in Sept of last year and have never been able to rank it. My website is Titan Appliance Repair | Appliance Repair Los Angeles, Refrigerator Repair and I am trying to rank maps for "appliance repair los angeles".

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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    Hi Jesse,

    I needed the link to the G+ page in question or the phone on that listing. You have 877 # on site and 3 other numbers. I'm really sick and unable to hunt around, guess and maybe end up researching the wrong one.
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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    Here it is thanks,

    (213) 454-0779
    213-454-0779

    (213) 454-0779
    (213) 454-0779
    https://plus.google.com/+TitanApplia...es/about?hl=en
    Last edited by jesse1341; 04-25-2014 at 01:22 PM. Reason: left out info

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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    Thanks Jesse, sorry I'm heading back to bed. Bronchitis 5 weeks and on bunch of meds.

    Hopefully someone else can help or I'll be back later.
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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    I ran a comp analysis and the glaring difference between you and most of the first page pack is reviews. All except one have several reviews. I would imagine that reviews have a heavy weight in your industry.

    I also noticed that you have quite a few competitors that seem pretty spammy, possibly fake listings. You can report Spam via Map Maker.

    You might also want to rethink your business description. It has the word "repair" in it seven times.

    Do you see customers at your physical business location? It doesn't look like you are in a residential area, but I can't see any signage from Streetview.
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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    In addition to what Colan found, I found a bunch of other locations and it's possible you have a penalty.

    Are all these locations valid locations, staffed full time for walkin traffic? One I checked is residential couple others I question.

    The guidelines say you can't set up multiple listing just to try to rank in different areas so could be penalized OR if these are truly valid locations then maybe they are OK.

    I don't have time to check further, BUT just used a hack we have that's pretty reliable for checking local penalties.

    Since you rank high organic you should be in pack.

    Here is the hack. Looks like you rank #1 in pure local if you were not penalized.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=appl...s_qdr&tbm=plcs
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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    I checked a few of the location pages on the website and they are 404'd. Including the LA page. That can't be helping.

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    Re: I rank on 1st page organic but 8th page for maps ,why?

    Thank both of you for responding to my post. as far as reviews well I didn't think it was a factor in this case because the #1 spot in Maps has no reviews but I am sure if I do get some maybe I should move up either way. I will get to it and see if that works. Our company has 3 owners and we work in diff areas that is why we have diff listings. We thought this was better since we don't have to get whole new licenses. Thank you Linda for showing me the hack.Makes me wonder if maybe it's just a rare mistake that Google made. The main thing that has me thinking this is that the meta data the listing has is like 3 months old.

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